Gender Pronouns

[hazelwindows.livejournal.com]

I had been searching off and on for quite some time for a non-gendered 3rd person pronoun that wasnt "it." I needed this for describing a certain aspect of self as well as when referring to some spiritual/reality states and guides.
Today, I came across "she'he" [pron: sheh'HEE] thanks to another who was speaking of a transvestite in this way.


Come to think of it, her/him statements would probably have to be something like "her'him" as well...


She looked out at the scene.
She'he looked out at the scene. perfect.


It was not all the same to him.
It was not all the same to ...she'him? ...her'im? ...her'he? unclear.


I was wondering, does anyone else have a way of describing the gender-free, the multi-gendered, and the other-gendered?

Comments

[athousandmoons.livejournal.com]

I found this article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender-neutral_pronoun) that gives all sorts of suggestions for describing people with different genders. (Look down at neologisms for the suggestions.) I personally like Spivak pronouns (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spivak_pronoun) (the article might not be accurate, but I like what it says anyway), but that's just my personal preference.

I hope you find something that you like. :)

~Mel

[eridanusus.livejournal.com]

The most common I've seen is zhe and zir.

[ricktboy.livejournal.com]

speaking as a genderqueer person, I like(if I must use 3rd gender pronouns) "zee" and "hir" but I'll also go with "shim"

pronunciations: zee = "zshee"

hir = "hear"

shim = self explanatory.

hope it helps.

Rick
pack collective

[kyouketsusha.livejournal.com]

I usually use "shi" and "hir", mainly because those are what someone else I know uses and they caught on :)

[pthalo]

you could use Hungarian:

ő =he, she
őt =him, her (accusative, i saw him, etc)
neki = to him, to her (giving something)
érte = for him, for her
benne = in him/her
hozzá = to him/her (direction)
nála = by him/her (near by)
tőle = from him/her
róla = off of him/her
belőle = out of him/her
vele = with him/her

that's it for the ones that can be applied as pronouns (there are more cases than that, but they don't work as pronouns)

to simply of course, you could just use "őt" (pronounced ert) for "him/her" and "ő" (er) for he/she

[fayanora.livejournal.com]

Discordians tend to use the term "hir" which I think is pronounced "heer." Along with s/he (shah-hee).

My girlfriend uses "e" and "er".

I use my own terms: "djai" (jay), which means s/he; and "djair" (jair), which is his/her(s).

[tahaton.livejournal.com]

Sa? Also heard zie being used.

[sethrenn.livejournal.com]

...I think I've seen "sie" and "hir," or alternately "xie" and "xir" used the most.

Of course, you can use whatever your favorite one is, but our observation was that those were the ones which seemed to be the most universally recognized among most gender-variant people.

[tej-agni.livejournal.com]

We were thinking about this one and we don't have another gender word that we use. Those within our realm who might be considered a different gender are actually part of another race, so we'd either call them by their name or by their racial name.

[cameoflage.livejournal.com]

I generally use either e/eir/eirs or they/their/theirs for most humans and beings who have/can be presumed to have a humanlike mindset. I don't really prefer one over the other, but use "they" more often than "e" because it's more commonly used and therefore easier to understand.

When aliens with different gender setups come into play in my writing, I generally create words and pronouns for whatever non-human gender they're a member of and use those instead. If I was just an observer of these hypothetical aliens, rather than the one who thought up their species, I'd wait and see what they used and carefully avoid pronouns altogether until then. (Or use "they" and "you", since those are gender-neutral and can be used for multiple systems, non-multiple individuals, and all sorts of in-between and/or even more complicated situations.)

[aquilawolf.livejournal.com]

Interesting conversation. After having read everything I find that I rather like 'ot', maybe because it really seems neutral to me and doesn't sound anything like the common gender pronouns. As far as whether it could be used for both he/she and him/her... Of course I'm just babbling to myself here at the computer in a whimsical mood. In actual practice I do the 'they/their' thing.