http://sosadlyfucked.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] sosadlyfucked.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] multiplicity_archives2004-03-19 08:35 pm
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the rape victim series II


"he said it wouldn't hurt"






About 44% of rape victims are under age 18. Three out of every twenty victims (15%) are under age 12.

rape, abuse, and incest national network

[identity profile] elenbarathi.livejournal.com 2004-03-20 06:39 am (UTC)(link)
You chose your Lj handle well, if you really don't *get* (as you said in this post (http://www.livejournal.com/users/sosadlyfucked/48270.html#cutid1)) why posting this sort of thing in a community where the majority of members were raped as children is "so offensive".

I think you DO get it, and that you posted this here with deliberate intention to cause pain and distress to people who've already been hurt in hideous ways. Already got thrown out of three communities for posting it, did you? Poor, poor, poor you; artists are always SO misunderstood by those who just don't have your innate sensitivity.

If I were moderator of this community, I'd throw you the hell out too. Not because I personally have a problem with your little image there - unlike a lot of people here, I'm natural multiple, not trauma-induced, and don't have any particular emotional response to dolls - soak 'em in blood, set 'em on fire, whatever, to me they are just plastic. By the way, in case you think you're too avant-garde for the room, doll-abuse as an artistic "statement" was already trite back in the 80's, and calling it "retro" doesn't make it any less trite now.

Nope - I'd throw you out for thinking it's oh-so-cool to "shock people", or, more precisely, to hurt them in the place where they're already wounded, just for your own petty ego-gratification. Two of my best friends in this community are struggling to deal with the lifelong effects of having been raped as babies, Miss Goth Angst, so stick your sanctimonious little "artistic statements" where they best deserve to be stuck - yeah, you're evil, but you're Evil Lite compared to what people here have already been through.

[identity profile] jinxtigr.livejournal.com 2004-03-20 08:21 am (UTC)(link)
Elenbarathi speaks for me.
I'm not a multiple myself- I've earned my place here by being involved with someone who is, and living up to that.
Sure, have your 'victory' of getting people to respond, because frankly giving the message to others here that tweaking them out for no useful reason is WRONG... is more important than 'winning' against 'you'. Here's your response post: you need to grow the hell up, and yeah- your power to upset isn't as great as you'd think. Power to annoy is quite intense- but then, that's not as much fun, is it?
Have a nice day.

[identity profile] tir-nan-og.livejournal.com 2004-03-20 08:39 am (UTC)(link)
What exactly WERE your intentions in posting to this communtity?
I am going to give you a the benefit of the doubt, and assume your intention was not to get a kick out of hurting people. It appears you werent thinking of others at all, only of yourself.
If you thought about it at all, you would know this is about the last community on earth that needs to be educated about the frequency with which teenagers and children are raped.
I am one of the friends elenbarathi mentioned. I was raped at an extremely young age. And I can tell you that your image, which you tried to make as horrifying as possible, was a tiptoe through the tulips compared to what I think, feel, and visualise in the course of my average day. When I see your image, I feel tense, but mostly contemptuous..'oh, so THAT"s supposed to be unbearable for someone like me, is it?"
This is a community filled with rape victims, and I'm sure many are, like me, just trying to make it through the day. Really. I am just trying to survive through the day, to stay alive for tommorow. I can be traumatised by things that ordinary people would consider to be a nonissue, and I'll be DAMNED, Ms. So Sadly Fucked, if I am going to let you add a drop to the ocean that is already crushing me.
If you had shared something personal about yourself, about something you found difficult to endure, I would have gladly tolerated it, in the interests of helping a fellow traveler cope.
But for god's sake, dont put this communtity through still more anxiety or misery, for the sake of an art piece. Post it to a forum of republican men, or the American Psychiatric Association, or something. Leave us alone with this sort of thing.

[identity profile] sexylittleone.livejournal.com 2004-03-20 02:22 pm (UTC)(link)
*nods to Elenbarathi* Well said & I agree wholeheartedly with you. I, too, am a victim of rape ... among other things. It was inside but does that make it any less real? any less painful? no. Ms Angst probably couldn't grasp how real that is to Me and how much (and how often) I am told (tho never directly) by shrinks & ordinary ppl that it doesnn't count b/c it wasn't an outside raping & beating.

I rarely swear (ppl i know can probably count on one hand the number of times I've made epithets) but here I shall: sosadlygofuckyourself.

El

[identity profile] shadowechoes.livejournal.com 2004-03-20 04:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with what everyone else has said here. I'm glad people spoke up about this unlike at the other multiple community you posted this at with your other journal.

[identity profile] pengke.livejournal.com 2004-03-21 09:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree that it would be cruel if she posted this to a rape survivor's group and that it was probably in poor taste to post it here.

Your reactions to it however I can not understand. Many of you have argued and fought whenever someone suggested spoilering and censoring you but here you are trying to do the same thing to her. (And don't you think naming it "the rape victim series" should count as a spoiler?)

This is not a support group. She shouldn't be expected to look at a group about multiplicity and assume that everyone here has been raped and traumatised. This community is not like fragmentedminds (where ironically enough no one protested the post.) This isn't a "safe" place. You're the one responsible for making sure you don't view things that will upset you, not her.

[identity profile] sethrenn.livejournal.com 2004-03-22 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
Adding to what was said earlier by [livejournal.com profile] pengke: I had not been under the impression that most of the people in this group had been abused/raped or were struggling to deal with unresolved issues caused by sexual abuse. It seems to me that if most people in here are dealing with problems from having been raped as children, you should call it an abuse survivors' support group rather than multiplicity.

[identity profile] jinxtigr.livejournal.com 2004-03-22 01:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Do I have to make it even clearer?
YHBT
HTH
HAND
Sorry, folks- I don't buy that this is a real poster. I could be wrong, but some of the arguments on the person's homepage don't ring true for a tormented or an avantgarde artist. They do, however, fit 'troll' with great effectiveness, right down to the deft use of philosophizing along with disclaiming of responsibility- claim to have no idea the troll was shocking in any way, salt with freedom-of-speech rhetoric, add a few jabs at likely targets and sit back and watch the flames back and forth.
YHBT.

[identity profile] ksol1460.livejournal.com 2004-03-22 06:46 pm (UTC)(link)
We all kind of liked the video in the sense that it can be used to educate the public. Our Children especially appreciate seeing things like this because "it shows what really happens".

We did wonder what it was doing in a community about multiplicity, though.