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multiplicity_archives2005-08-09 02:31 pm
withfangs.livejournal.com) wrote in multiplicity_archives2005-08-09 02:31 pm
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Mooooooore skeptism
Please bear with me. My boy, Max, posted here a while ago, in regards to me, and he's trying to push me more into having conversations with others about my own doubts with multiplicity.
When I was young, I began studying other religions, and I really became interested in spirituallity. Along the way, I discovered two others living within. Really, this is just background information, so no know thinks I'm trying to troll or rag on the community. I've been aware of my own multiplicity for a number of years. I also see my multiplicity as a means to my own personal spirituallity. That is, I don't have a set religion, but I see the presence of and communication with my system as being a self-enlightening, holy experience.
I see this huge resurgance of multiples on the internet, and it makes me skeptical. NOT, because of the fact that their multiples. I wouldn't call someone out on being a "fake". But, the way some of these systems carry on, it makes me wonder how they can reasonably function.
I'm going to point the finger at soulbonding, because it seems to be the means of multiplicity that houses the greatest number of loonies. I can accept, per se, that another has entered your system, and is a bad influence, and perhaps is forcing your body and system down a bad path. I can not, however, accept that this entity causing harm is, say, Sephiroth from the Final Fantasy games. That, is insane. Final Fantasy is fiction. It may very well be an entity that projects images OF Sephiroth into your mind, but part of gaining some feasible aspect of functional control over yourselves, is seeing through the bullshit.
I have trouble with people who play INTO that bullshit, by extension. Not only do they seem to be the loudest group of loons, but they're also impossible to have a reasonable discussion with. Everything boils down to "it's different for everyone", which is great for upholding any kind of deluded fantasy that you might have, but really, isn't productive for conversation.
Especially...if you're attempting to learn something, or see if they have a reason to act the way that they do.
Are there any rational, sane soulbonds, here? If so, do they honestly believe that they're fictional characters? This seems to be the most levelheaded community about plurality on LJ that we can find, so I figure it would be the best place to start.
When I was young, I began studying other religions, and I really became interested in spirituallity. Along the way, I discovered two others living within. Really, this is just background information, so no know thinks I'm trying to troll or rag on the community. I've been aware of my own multiplicity for a number of years. I also see my multiplicity as a means to my own personal spirituallity. That is, I don't have a set religion, but I see the presence of and communication with my system as being a self-enlightening, holy experience.
I see this huge resurgance of multiples on the internet, and it makes me skeptical. NOT, because of the fact that their multiples. I wouldn't call someone out on being a "fake". But, the way some of these systems carry on, it makes me wonder how they can reasonably function.
I'm going to point the finger at soulbonding, because it seems to be the means of multiplicity that houses the greatest number of loonies. I can accept, per se, that another has entered your system, and is a bad influence, and perhaps is forcing your body and system down a bad path. I can not, however, accept that this entity causing harm is, say, Sephiroth from the Final Fantasy games. That, is insane. Final Fantasy is fiction. It may very well be an entity that projects images OF Sephiroth into your mind, but part of gaining some feasible aspect of functional control over yourselves, is seeing through the bullshit.
I have trouble with people who play INTO that bullshit, by extension. Not only do they seem to be the loudest group of loons, but they're also impossible to have a reasonable discussion with. Everything boils down to "it's different for everyone", which is great for upholding any kind of deluded fantasy that you might have, but really, isn't productive for conversation.
Especially...if you're attempting to learn something, or see if they have a reason to act the way that they do.
Are there any rational, sane soulbonds, here? If so, do they honestly believe that they're fictional characters? This seems to be the most levelheaded community about plurality on LJ that we can find, so I figure it would be the best place to start.
Re: Part One
Sometimes the soulbonder is actively creating this character, sometimes the character's existance is tied into a writing process, and sometimes the character is just there. There is no reason why someone's imaginary friend or the voice in their head shouldn't be a fictional character.
Bingo. What some people forget is that like multiplicity, the soulbonding experience isn't the same for everybody. Constructs or walk-ins, or something else; just because it's that way for one system doesn't mean it's the same way for everyone. I myself am a walk-in, and the only reason I don't fit into the category of "soulbond" is that I haven't yet finished writing my 'autobiography' and getting it published. One day, one day. Then what? When my story's on the shelves of a bookshop, it becomes public domain, then I'm a soulbond? Nothing will have changed for me.
Funny how you find a lot of soulbonders who claim their soulbonds are just as real as the people in multiple systems but you never see them claiming that the soulbonds are just as real as their neighbor Bob who lives across the street.
Maybe you're not reading in the right places then. Everyone in our system, whether they're soulbonds or not, is as real as our neighbour Bob across the street. I'm not the "original" person in our system, but still I am the one who deals with most of the practical side of life, going to work, paying bills and so on. I'm as real as the person who sits at the next desk at work. The only difference is that I am using someone else's body in order to do it, and I have to answer to a name that's not my own. The soulbonds in our system are no less real than I am.
Re: Part One
Re: Part One
Seriously, there's no need to be so damned rude.
Re: Part One