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A Discussion Question

We just found this article and were mildly shocked. What do you all think? We're posting this here for discussion's sake.
hthttp://www.spiritlink.com/scrmpd.html
Enjoy,
Jess and Alissa

[identity profile] catskillmarina.livejournal.com 2007-01-31 08:11 pm (UTC)(link)
The insistance on integration irritates me but the
portraial, though overly dramatic has some semblamce
to the experiences we have had and other 'tribes' we
know offline.

The insistance that one person in their system should
rule also irritates us. We are, as a tribe, radically
democratic. If there is a core in our system that person most likely would be offended by the idea that
one person should rule the system.

One therapist we know makes a distinction between
spirit guides and 'alters'. We do not. We try to
respect all sentient beings within our consciousness.

--- Constance and Marina of Mtribe
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[identity profile] tessagratton.livejournal.com 2007-01-31 08:20 pm (UTC)(link)
thanks for the link. it was cool, if outdated. the author does a disservice by assuming only the two possible explanations of spirit attachment or past life stuff, i think. but within that discussion, it was relatively respectful.

[identity profile] mylittlebox.livejournal.com 2007-01-31 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe some people NEED, or WANT integration, while others don't. That's why I don't have a problem with the suggestion -- some people may need it, while the rest of us may be happy with who and what we are.

[identity profile] weirdiguess.livejournal.com 2007-01-31 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
There's stuff other people have said like it being outdated and stuff, and acting like integration is great, and saying that past lives and spirits are the only answers for non-trauma. Something else I noticed;

Of the forty-five Insiders, one stood discordantly apart and made a strong case for spirit attachment.

They start talking about a guy who sounds like he makes a strong case for it all being just a big fragment thing like the books say it is. The woman's just looking for something and finding it because it's what she wants to see. Pretty much how most people work.

It was nice, in a kind of really patronising way.

[identity profile] rabbitsystem.livejournal.com 2007-02-01 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
We found that all rather peculiar. While very respectful, the author still started from and reinforced the idea of 'this cannot be right/healthy/normal!' You notice the only choices we between (essentially) possession and past lives, no mention of the possibility of simply being multiple. That's what I really want - some mention, somewhere, by a singlet, that multiples can be multiple just because they are, and with no other explanation needed.
-Seb.

[identity profile] ksol1460.livejournal.com 2007-02-01 11:59 am (UTC)(link)
Spiritlink is maintained by the woman who wrote My Name is Legion (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0966229916/astraeaswebmulti), which is a work of fiction based very loosely on the Sarah case (http://www.astraeasweb.net/plural/sarah.html). She became involved with the case because of her work in trying to reform the criminal justice system. She knew Sarah personally, yet the book is the usual sensationalistic nonsense. When she was writing to us in 1999, She told us that at least part of this was demanded by her editor.

She initialized our email correspondence, saying that we were "on the same wavelength". At the time, she was an adherent of the Seth Speaks material by Jane Roberts, and signed her emails "In Love and Light". Her explanation of multiplicity was based on it. In some cases of extreme trauma and abuse one's Greater Self creates sub-selves to help cope, which then become persons in their own right. This only works for people who have developed a "psychic blueprint" of creative genius through past lives. This explanation was based on Seth's (or Jane Roberts') ideas of personality which he said were "akin to quantum physics" because the mind is "made of unlimited energy".

One thing we appreciated was her annoyance with people who get a fixated idea of what kind of people a multiple system is apt to include. She'd apparently run into a number of doctors and legal professionals who insisted that every group has an "abuser alter" and make judgments based on that.