http://monozukineko.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] monozukineko.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] multiplicity_archives2006-02-02 02:11 am
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A mess, and lacking order

I want some kind of order to my head.

I mean, now that I've been essentially told off by one of my headmates, and noticing that the more tired I am, the more they seem to babble and chatter amongst themselves and make me that much more tired... the more I'd really like a way to structure who gets to say what when. Like, organize 'shifts.'

There's been some debate as to how it would actually work, but I'm more concerned with: is it possible at all, or is it by its very nature doomed to the problems of spontaneity? Is it fair to restrict them to some kind of schedule-- is it fair to *me?*

Any thoughts?

[identity profile] our-menagerie.livejournal.com 2006-02-02 08:50 am (UTC)(link)
I have heard of some systems being able to work on a schedule. We tried it in the past and for us it was totally doomed because of spontaneity. I'd be curious to hear others answers to this too.

[identity profile] catskillmarina.livejournal.com 2006-02-02 04:09 pm (UTC)(link)
We did that for a while. I (constance) used to work and
deal with people while the rest of us were out at home,
but now some of us can now deal with the workday world so it
is less regimented, though today i put on my best suit
and put on makeup and went to work. I'm tired of seeing
someone else in the mirror. My turn ;-)

[identity profile] shandra.livejournal.com 2006-02-02 12:43 pm (UTC)(link)
We can't work on a schedule for talking/expressing opinions/communicating. We're all way too mouthy! Plus for us anyway, that's how we remain in touch with each other.

But if someone needs to concentrate on a task they might communicate their need for people to shut up for 15 minutes, and the people might listen. Being tired out and needing a break for 20 minutes to have silence also qualifies as a need. :-) Generally we all try to be respectful of each other that way. But it involves really being respectful - i.e., not just 'everyone shut up when I need silence' but 'I'll shut up when you need to concentrate too.'

What helped us with this the most was that second thing. I got cooperation on concentrating on a class Tuesday nights, but then I had to give up an hour and a half on Saturday afternoons to guitar lessons + travel time.

[identity profile] moon-pepper.livejournal.com 2006-02-02 04:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Schedules seem like a good idea and we'll mention to people who say they are new to the whole Multiple experience to [give it a go] see what might work for them. In our own experience, schedules give a general basis on how to run things, but we don't [place stock in it] make it law. On a particular day an individual [in the peanut gallery] unaccounted for may [give it a go] (drop a cog?) decide to spend time controlling the body. Another point to remember is the size of your [family] (group!) System. A small System under ten individuals may have an easier time at making a schedule work than those with [infinite] much larger numbers. Of course, to the System with (two?) five individuals, it can seem just as chaotic. It depends on the [point of view] perspective. Different (strokes) strategies work differently for everyone.

[identity profile] 3g3n3r4710nz.livejournal.com 2006-02-02 04:28 pm (UTC)(link)
schedules work sometimes. we had one for a while...well it wasnt so much a schedule more like you get to be out when... but now we're like fuck it...we need some order too :3 but less order=more fun for me so wtfever

Schedules

[identity profile] seaclans.livejournal.com 2006-02-02 06:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think schedules would work for us, too many are involved in managing daily life. We do have a thought that might help. try develop internal/otherwhere landscape more completely. That way people aren't just sitting around bored with nothing to do but kibitz. The process of building the landscape etc. will occupy people and also give them something to do with their-selves when it's complete. Things like art studios, parks, what have you. It's also got the side effect of organizing things more, simply by structuring the landscape.

So that's our idea.

[identity profile] our-haven.livejournal.com 2006-02-05 06:24 am (UTC)(link)
Heh. We tried that for a little while, mostly while we were performing at the local renaissance festival, but it didn't work too well. Jem (the one who's out the most) got all control-freak on us and kept forcing everyone else back. She sometimes gets overwhelmed by us being out too much, though.

It would (theoretically) have worked pretty damn well, I think. In our agreement for doing it that we set up, it was basically understood that you could opt out of your shift if someone else was willing to cover it, and if someone else needed to come out and handle a situation that you couldn't, they would be allowed to.

It just sucked that Jem had to resort to threats to keep us back. That whole time really sucked ass.

-January.