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We are having the weirdest experience with a outside friend of Tieas.
She'll often start a quetion with Tiea with "So where do YOU want to go"? Tiea will typicaly wait a second or two and listen to us to see if we have a special place in mindwere all rooting for and answer the friend.
Allot of times the friend will say "we' disagreed and "came out and said something differnt", if its not a place the friend wants to go to, or like a movieshe wants to see, the friend will blame it on "us " and say "well all your little people couldet decide so were not going anywhere" If she's driving.

Or Tiea will end up some place she did not want to be and the frind will say "So and so said No" This is so NOT true and Tiea is catching on . We first off dont like being called "the little people" But to end up at a movie or club none of us wanted to go to and have it blamed on s is bothersome.

Has anyone had something like this happen? Were not sure weather one of us should say something( seperatly) to her(the friend)or wait for Tiea to say "No I was here and nobody switched at all" I dont think I'm explaining this well. But this outside friend will blame "us " "the little people inside "She even has called us "the munckins" Tiea just hung up the phone on her .
Peace Shelby

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Tell her to stop lying in order to manipulate you.

If she refuses to stop this pathetic behaviour, I agree with ditching her. She's abusing her knowledge, and being a completely shit 'friend'.

PS, the name thing is shit. I suggest you make a name for yourself as a group so she can stop using patronising crap.

The joy of having an all adult system is that nobody can use patronising kiddy names. Let me tell you, if anybody did, there's several of us, me included, who'd be reacting in distinctly unpleasant manners.

Well we were going to post this to thank everyone so maybe everyone will read it.

We told her today at work. Well Officialy Tiea questoned her weird when she asked again"so what do you guys wnat to do tonight? "A movie or fish fry"? Tiea being pasive agressive says "what does it matter you'll just make up something up and say the gang mates said and say I said it anyways"? So Kathy gets all defensive explaining the reason she asks what the "little people" want or "the munchkins"is she wants EVERONE to feel included."

So Tiea says "heres the thing Kathy there people not" munhkins" or "little people" like aliens in my brain there people(almost screaming )"
So Kathy says "Ok do you want to speka for them or have each one tell me what they want to do"? Tiea says "No I want you to listen to the answer I give you and assume we all agreed and not make a big deal about it and then lie about it."

She get's in her MHP Nurse persona and says "I suggest you all get your shit together cause I was being nice is all." Tiea says "nice people don't lie" Kathy goes "ya know Tiea "they" just dont want you to have any NORMAL friends and leaves. We think that went well. Geez Shelby & Marcil and Celi Mosaic House gang

Kathy's right, if normal means lying manipulative bitches. *grinz*

Good show.

--Me

Ok whatever, we dont undertsnd your response and why you feel the need to keep something going so whatever,either you did not accept the apology or you just dont get what we were talking about in this post.

When we dont agree with someone in any community we just stay away from them.
Shelby

I was talking about Kathy. You might be being a bit oversensitive here.

--Me

Sorry "head down in the sand" embarrased I meant to reply here.

But read around the vacinity and you'll see all my apologies .

Thanks for the support sorry I misunderstod you
Peace Shelby

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Thanks Lisa Yeah I feel like a idiotand moron .

I didnet get it about the "Show "I thought meant we made a scene for Tiea, but now I totaly get it so apologized all over the palce. Sometimes I have trouble interperting the written word and take evrything very literal sometimes . I kept thinking but What show? no show, we talked is all
But if Toni had said something there would have been a scene for sure.

How are ya doin today?LJ is moving like a snail today. Does it do thaton Saterdays ?

Thanks, allot Shelby & Jade

It's usually a good idea to ask if you're not sure what somebody meant by something. A lot of times I read things literally too -- I'm not clear on what people mean especially when I don't know them well, and have to read it 6 or 8 times before I see it. With autism it's sometimes hard to tell when people are being sarcastic and when they mean it.

I agree with you .As we get to know people we can tell when there joking but it can be hard on screen when your just getting to know someone but this time I messed up. arggg. Shelby

So We suppose if you were out with someone and they kept calling your people, "Munckins" or "little people" you would have no problem?
Shelby

Or if by some chance w were misunderstanding your post then we apologize but the "Good Show" we dont get,but itdoes seem sarcastic, there was no show we just walked away in a disagreement.
Shelby

Yes you did misunderstand the post. The term was meant to indicate you did a good thing there. *sighs*

--Me

yeah we did or specificaly I did ( I keep trying to ost and Lj is movng at a snail s passt and then it goes toerror page ) so I hope this posts. You can just call me idiot You can just chalk it up to me being moronish lately I thought you meant it the other way like we caused a scene and we let Tiae deal with it But now duh * knocks self in head I get it *

Please accept my aplogy again
And thanks for thinking we did the right thing
I can be a study in frustration even to me Shelby that is
I just told the Mosaic Gang you meant it good not bad and they were like Duh
Peace Shelby

See above.

--Me

Boy do I feel like a idiot ok dum de dum .. you should look below I guess or somewhere around there, I get it, and Elaine gets it too, Thanks
Peace Shelby

Were sorry again

Some of the most sincerely fucked-up persons we've ever known promoted themselves as being examples of 'normal people' and their behaviour as 'what normal people do.' Not just that, but those particular individuals also repeatedly informed us that we didn't understand 'how normal people do things' because we had never gotten a chance to be exposed to it, and they were going to be the ones to show us how to be normal. Last time it happened, we finally wised up to the fact that there was nothing normal about continual emotional abuse and walked on them, despite their warnings that we would never be able to live or get along with other people if we ignored their 'help.'

What a loser. I suggest you ~~introduce her nose to the back of her skull~~ get away from her ASAP. That shit is NOT healthy. Although, being passive aggressive is not a good way to start a constructive discussion.

Good point about the passive agressive. We know. We used to think Tiea was just painfully shy cause some of us that were there when she was young knew she was terrified to open her mouth and ever tell what she really thought, but as we grew with her, we saw she was trying to be herself,be heard and taken seriosly and please everyone in the world the result she was not saying anything she wanted ever or being herself or getting heard But we were hearing her allot.

We figure this= Passive aggressive, she'll complain to herself after a converstaion and we hear it the longest as she regurgitates it in her head. then outloud to get our attention, she can be funny to listen to, from my perspective.

We actually saw this friend the other night and she went on in a casual enviroment about how she aways thought "Little people" sounded better than calling them "alters" cause that didn't sound like we were real really to her, and at least she was acknowloging we exsisted.

Tiea did not respond to that statement and none of us did either it made us wonder. Like which would we prefer "personalities" "alters", "fragments" or "little people"? .

This I know for sure "Munkins "is unacceptable even though we do have some kids they have never spoke to her there too afraid to come to the outside world unless with one of us adults.

Hey how do you cross out what you write ?I havent found that key yet would ya mind sharng where it is? We make allot of mistakes and are always re- editing Thanks Lol Peace Shelby

[strike]I didn't say this, honest[/strike], Replacing the []s with the typical HTML tags.

Passive aggressive is an art form :P It's not being quiet and bitching when somebody's gone. It's *subtle* bitching. It's saying something which isn't *technically* something that should start an arguement, but that you know will, and in a tone that means it will. It's very hard to explain without examples, and my brain is mush this morning.

If you see sarcasm in a bitch fight, it's often passive aggressive ^^ Others will be better at describing than me.

We don't use strike tags for editing usually. We use it for "Here's what I really want to say but know I shouldn't, but for humours sake will say anyway followed by the polite version."

AAAHHH strike tags ,we'll have to look for those. I like that idea, like this is what I want to say but to be correct I'll strike it but its still thee ha ah. Hymm Maybe Tiea isent passive agressive at all, maybe I got it all wrong cause she typically is completely quiet, doesnt say a word and then on the way home bitches to herself or us cause we can hear her.

She trys to please everyone, to the extent of losing herself . I'll have to look up what passive agressive definition really is cause we always thouht it was like... Person orders a medium rare steak, server brings them well done , person bitches to party there eating dinner with but refuses to tell server this is not what I ordered. I'm not sure if that is passive agressive a martyer or just plain annoying.

Thanks for the tip its off to another Manic Monday. I only have a half day due to peersonal days being taken. Thanks, Shelby

Oh Oh Oh I just got it Tieas Grandmother was a real passive aggressive cause Tiea would respectfully cause she was a elder always say "Grandma why don't you just say it already its what your implying" Own it." Well allot of the problem with Tieas Grandma is she spoke broken English but she could make a point and drive it home .

When ever she did start a argument she would blame it on her bad English. She was the best lady though we miss her... Shelby
PS she taught us to cook and knit and take care of house and everything a Mother should, are Grangma taught us, cause our Mom was unable . Thank God for Grandmas

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