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It's people liek this that cause the world of multiples to never be seen for what it truly is

(btw, for those of you who don't know me (pretty much everyone) I'm a non-multiple whose SO is a member of a multiple system)

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The purpose of me posting this was not to bash one specific person for their belief on how they should treat my SO. This is jsut the first example I've gotten that is in WRITING of the way so many people think that a few pamphlets, a couple documentaries, and maybe a book or two and they're geniuses on the topic. They're the ones who don't see that whether someone is faking the "disorder" or not, it is often a defense mechanism, not something for purely attention. Even if it IS for attention, maybe teh person believes that surrounding themselves with a large number of peopel on the outside will protect them.

Re: *glee*

[identity profile] pengke.livejournal.com 2004-10-25 03:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Her point is that multiples don't exactly wear signs advertising themselves. Sometimes you will be able to tell that there's something different about someone or if you're used to the idea of multiplicity, maybe you'll wonder if they're multiple, but usually people don't notice. Even when people do notice things, it's usually shrugged off because all people, multiple or not, are very inconsistent and can change moods/opinions/ect. rapidly. Plus, a lot of multiples work to make people think they're all one person.

The inconsistency can also make it hard to identify different people when you know that someone is multiple. Sometimes it's really obvious. Sometimes the differences are very subtle. Sometimes there isn't any outward difference and you'll only realize you're dealing with someone else when the person says or does something that the others wouldn't do. You can also get people who are very similar. It's similar to how sometimes close siblings or close friends can act just alike.

Because it's so hard to tell, sometimes people will go out of their way to behave different from the others. That's when you get things like people adopting accents or writing in slang/bad grammar or speaking in an artificially deep voice. To borrow the gay metaphor, it's similar to how some gay people will adopt very stereotypical, flamboyantly gay behaviors. Of course, people also do all of those things when they're faking too. That's why you have to get to know the person. Then you'll be able to tell if they're getting anything out of it or see if they fall out of character. You'll also be in a better position to pick up the subtle differences.

[identity profile] duathir.livejournal.com 2004-10-25 05:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Well-said. Certain people can tell us apart even when we are sitting quietly and saying nothing, though we do not know how they do it, and when asked they cannot explain. I find this somewhat uncanny, and am not entirely comfortable with it.
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[identity profile] duathir.livejournal.com 2004-10-27 12:49 pm (UTC)(link)
But it is the same body; the genitalia does not change. Often the position does not change. There are people who can tell in the dark, when we are wrapped in a heavy, hooded winter cloak (we are in the SCA, so this is common attire for us) and making no gestures at all. There is no logical way they should be able to tell.

We have been told our eyes (which are hazel) change color, but I do not think they do, only that they appear different in different light. We have also been told our scent changes, our 'aura' changes, our 'mind-feel' changes - I do not know whether these changes are truly indicative, or whether they are coincidental, as I believe eye-color changes to be. I cannot myself see auras or feel 'mind-feel', so I am not in a position to evaluate any statements about them.

Re: *glee*

[identity profile] cataragon.livejournal.com 2004-10-25 06:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I am not entirely sure, but I believe in this case, the different people/personalities have very distinct and obvious behavioural differences. I believe what Binky was trying to say was that he had not experienced these obvious behavioral differences and therefore his only experience of her multiplicity was 'her talking about it all the time'.
He was sceptical, but had no objection to her leading her own life, or ahving her own choices apart from when they interacted negatively with him
He has at least been polite, and not insulting, as well as shown an interest in learning more.

For the record, I've withheld judgement. I simply do not know enough about multiplicity, DID/MPD or Chris to make any kind of judgement.
I'm still hanging around here because I find the conversation interesting.

I do find it a little hard to swallow that the same people here who are so vociferous about people being understanding about other people are the same ones bagging my entire social group based on very little indeed. But hey, thems the breaks.