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multiplicity_archives2004-10-14 08:57 pm
morgil-lomion.livejournal.com) wrote in multiplicity_archives2004-10-14 08:57 pm
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multiples and otherkin (x-posted)
Well, I think this is my first official update in this community but I think most people are familiar with me. If not, I'll briefly introduce myself. I'm an outside walk-in to a system of several different people living inside one body/mind. I call myself an Angel of Death and believe myself to be over 700 years old [although I admit even I am skeptical to my own claims; I don't even take my own memories as absolute evidence of the truth of my claims e.g. I may be crazy :)].
That being said and all of this beingg taken into consideration, I find myself interested in the interactions between multiplicity(be it natural or disordered) and otherkinism(to coin a word).
It seems to me that there are many commonalities between the two phenomena and, while different in many ways, Kin seem to often share some traits with Multiples and vice versa. At the same time, the interactions and reactions between persons who consider themselves only to be one or the other are not always necessarily amiable. Some Kin think of Multiples as "crazies" and some Multiples seem to do the reverse; at very least there seems to be a good deal of skepticism as a subtext for their interactions with one another.
There also exist subtle differences in the language used between the two groups when it comes to terms and ideas that are at least superficially nearly identical.
Take the concept of a "walk-in", a term I use to describe myself to aid other people's understanding of me. Whereas Kin often use this term in a highly mystical and transendental fassion roughly similar to the old idea of someone either possesing or being possesed by a spirit(not necessarily evil although possesion certainly has that connotation culturally for many), Multiples tend to think of it as a common or a more internal experience where another person simply walks into the mind and takes up residence there.
Because of these observations, I am curious as to other people in both communities perspectives on each other and people's unique personal observations or general experiences with these ideas.
I find both groups of people and their interactions fascinating, largely of course because I consider myself both, and also because of the blurred line that marginally seperates people in both categories.
I look forward to the reactions and impressions of the people who respond, be they experienced in these interactions or completely uninformed of the paradigmatical juxtaposition these two groups usually fall into. Id est: Both the experienced and the newbie I'm sure will have interesting things to say.
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otherkin.
That being said and all of this beingg taken into consideration, I find myself interested in the interactions between multiplicity(be it natural or disordered) and otherkinism(to coin a word).
It seems to me that there are many commonalities between the two phenomena and, while different in many ways, Kin seem to often share some traits with Multiples and vice versa. At the same time, the interactions and reactions between persons who consider themselves only to be one or the other are not always necessarily amiable. Some Kin think of Multiples as "crazies" and some Multiples seem to do the reverse; at very least there seems to be a good deal of skepticism as a subtext for their interactions with one another.
There also exist subtle differences in the language used between the two groups when it comes to terms and ideas that are at least superficially nearly identical.
Take the concept of a "walk-in", a term I use to describe myself to aid other people's understanding of me. Whereas Kin often use this term in a highly mystical and transendental fassion roughly similar to the old idea of someone either possesing or being possesed by a spirit(not necessarily evil although possesion certainly has that connotation culturally for many), Multiples tend to think of it as a common or a more internal experience where another person simply walks into the mind and takes up residence there.
Because of these observations, I am curious as to other people in both communities perspectives on each other and people's unique personal observations or general experiences with these ideas.
I find both groups of people and their interactions fascinating, largely of course because I consider myself both, and also because of the blurred line that marginally seperates people in both categories.
I look forward to the reactions and impressions of the people who respond, be they experienced in these interactions or completely uninformed of the paradigmatical juxtaposition these two groups usually fall into. Id est: Both the experienced and the newbie I'm sure will have interesting things to say.
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otherkin.
Otherkin
I personally do not identify as otherkin, I'm human, perhaps monstrous, but more monstrous human than otherkin.
I don't by necessity dislike otherkin, but there are certain concepts taken as a given there, that do get my hackles in a bunch. There are some that occur in the multiple community as well, which do the same.
I can believe in some crazy shit, but I do try to not presume it should be a given for everyone else. It should be a given that I have these beliefs, and that I will defend them, but so long as we're not talking about manipulative and abusive invalidation, I'm not so sure where the problem should lie.
An example of manipulative and abusive invalidation would be: "Your multiplicity is trauma induced, therefore you are not real, and I have a right to treat you as a second-class citizen, or can completely decide to not take any of your needs into account, and presume I'm on some moral high ground of trying to make the "real person" healthier."
I might not take some people's needs into account, but at least I'm aware of the morally ambigous ground on which I tread at times.
--Me
Re: Otherkin