http://jhelai.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] jhelai.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] multiplicity_archives2006-06-23 02:37 am

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It seems that we function even more different than other multiples here than we originally thought, as we have not been able to give any feedback to other posts recently. Take the matter of relationships for example, which have been taken into discussion over the last couple of days in several posts. We have never seen it as possible to have a close relationship, as we are too close together to accept certain tastes in genders. Once we tried to come to a solution by voting, but that left us in the wrong kind of physical form ourselves! So we have remained asexual, as that was the best way to keep everyone in control. Perhaps we can't involve ourselves because of our way of existing as one united mind, but is there none of you who have decided to refrain from using their physical form intimately?

[identity profile] ques-nova.livejournal.com 2006-06-23 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
I have a few in my syste who are hesitant about sexuality (either being too young or being men, and thus uncomfortable expressing themselves sexually in a female body) but not everyone in my system is involved with my husband or any of my lovers, nor am I neccessarily involved with theirs. My husband and I are polyamorous and so we encourage each other to seek other relationships and we do the same for the others in our systems (we're also both multiple, which makes things a bit easy on the understanding end as well.)

[identity profile] 0semya0.livejournal.com 2006-06-23 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
We're the same. We forgo the whole sexuality question or the issue of dating. There are a few who are slightly interested in the idea, but overall its not that big of a topic to really have us put forth the effort.

[identity profile] arcis.livejournal.com 2006-06-23 07:28 am (UTC)(link)
for this time being, we decide to keep the body single.
there are internal relationship(s), and while it would be more externally acceptable to have an outside partner, from experience it brings more trouble than good.. some of us are really possessive, not even mention the disagreement over the criterias/requirements of a 'suitable' partner

in all, the decision mostly lies to the one who would have to interact with the partner, and at this point, the frontrunner is not looking for an outside relationship :)

[identity profile] posywink.livejournal.com 2006-06-23 09:11 am (UTC)(link)
Our body is absolutely single. It has nothing to do with being a group, though. Our creator gave up on dating before we all got here. Her reason? She says she's pickier than she can afford to be. When you lack social skills, physical attractiveness, and status, you pretty much have to take what you can get. She's not willing to do that. Sure, we could at least try, but we've decided that it's not worth the hassle. We're not satisfied with the amount of free time that we have, anyway; we're not about to waste it on trying to land a mate. We'd rather read webcomics, develop things in Midnight Blue, work on our LJ, etc.

Besides (and this observation might resonate with you in some way), relationships in reality will never excite us as much as those which we imagine.

-- Kara and Zoe

[identity profile] duathir.livejournal.com 2006-06-23 10:20 am (UTC)(link)
I have so decided.

[identity profile] shandra.livejournal.com 2006-06-23 02:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Well if it works for you, that's what's important. :-)

I did want to pick up on something you said in the comments above - that it wouldn't be fair if some people can have relationships while others don't. I can see your solution but for us we have found that accepting that things aren't fair is really important - not everyone can have everything everyone else has, all the time. What we try to do is make things ok for everyone but what "ok" is is different for each person. To me, multiplicity is inherently unfair.

[identity profile] chex-mix.livejournal.com 2006-06-23 03:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I like hugs

[identity profile] chex-mix.livejournal.com 2006-06-23 03:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Meera tells me I should always do what I am comfortable with. she says it makes me honest with my heart. Love Bastion

[identity profile] 0semya0.livejournal.com 2006-06-23 03:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Да. Но мы реально не говорим Russion.

[identity profile] ques-nova.livejournal.com 2006-06-23 04:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure I quite get it, given being polyamorous, we're all bound by the same rules as far as relationships go, and thus equal. Those who choose not to express themselves sexually do so either because of their age or because they have qualms with our body's gender, but those who choose to have a partner (or more) can do so as long as they adhere to the same rules as everyone else (most of which concern safety.)
I fail to see how this arrangement doesn't provide equality, nor do I see how it could damage inner balance. If anything, your arrangement would, in our circumstances, cause harm as many within this system require physical intimacy for one reason or another (the most extreme of which being a "succubus" for lack of a better term.)

[identity profile] robyn-knight.livejournal.com 2006-06-23 04:58 pm (UTC)(link)
i dont have a relationship using the body here. i have one when im not using the body. back where we live in our inner world or realm or dimension or whatever shit you wanta call it. not everyone believes in that shit like other dimensions or whatever but i live there so. my girl shay and our buns. one big happy family. ha ha. outie

[identity profile] chaostiny.livejournal.com 2006-06-23 06:09 pm (UTC)(link)
at one point we decided that and for many years the ex hubby got none:) Then, we met our current fiance, and one of our numbers broke that decision. It turns out that she was wise and correct in her decision and we are now very happy. I think each person has a corresponding person and when you find that person you will know. I know it sounds romantic or idealistic but for me, the second I met my fiance I knew I had found the right person. He is the only person I could ever imagine myself with intimately. Even my ex hubby, in 9 years of being married, only got 'it' 8 times. Most of those were out of pity... one was because one of my numbers thought it was a good idea to have another baby...

[identity profile] arcis.livejournal.com 2006-06-23 07:06 pm (UTC)(link)
mm ^^; we had.. um, I had relationships with other fellow multiples. the change from 'we' to 'I' pretty much explains it ^^; some of the members hates the other system's members and vice versa, but they generally gave ways.. sort of.

I think if in the future we're (as in the body) going to have another outside relationship, it will be with a singleton. posing outwardly as a singleton -at this point, we might be just jaded, really- is easier than to mend feuds between two systems >.> (if we're lucky, we might find a singleton that doesn't mind, but either way it's fine)

that.. if we ever get around the sheer posessiveness some members here have, of course... *rollseyes*

- Oz (aka the previously mentioned current frontrunner)

[identity profile] shandra.livejournal.com 2006-06-23 08:11 pm (UTC)(link)
That's really interesting. We have gotten more cooperative and share more time, etc., but our individuality is something we tend to fiercely defend. We also believe that part of respecting our shared space is to use our body to experience all kinds of things like the sun on our face etc. etc. - that it was intended as a source of connection and pleasure, as well as something we are responsible to care for. So that's how we negotiate the physical things - does it respect us? does it respect the body?

It is really neat to hear how other ways work too. :)

[identity profile] weirdiguess.livejournal.com 2006-06-23 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
The girls here use it. If people want to use it then they can. It was a problem at one point because the partner was monogamous, but he's pretty open now, so as long as it's all safe and within rules, people get to do as they want.

[identity profile] exsillium-nocte.livejournal.com 2006-06-24 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
You could always just hug people at random. It's fun to see people's responses, and it's a Hell of a way to make new friends.

[identity profile] exsillium-nocte.livejournal.com 2006-06-24 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
Generally, it's not a problem just because of the simplicity of our existence. As far as I know, I'm the only one here capable of physical intimacy, and the only real problem presented with being in a relationship is that Umbrian Reiori and Jack tend to focus their malice on my girlfriend, which in all honesty is potentially very dangerous, but I've gotten quite a bit more control over them in recent years (or perhaps just getting out of high school cut out a bunch of stress sources; sometimes right before big projects are due at the uni, they pipe up again), and their outbursts have decreased sunstantially.

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