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All right, so we go to a psychiatrist, named Dr. C.

Dr. C saw my friend and his mom for a time. My friend is also multiple.

Dr. C told my friend's mom that he should be locked up because of the voices in his head.

What should we do? We don't want to not tell her, but we also don't want to be told that we should be locked up.

Any suggestions?

Please also keep in mind that the body is a 16 year old female...

[identity profile] confractions.livejournal.com 2006-03-28 12:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Wrong...Parents cannot lock a kid up just because they feel like it. The person has to be an immenet risk to themselves or others or their condition is such that they will deteroiate signifigantly without treatment.

[identity profile] chaostiny.livejournal.com 2006-03-28 08:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Just on a side note... when I was 16 I was placed in an adolescent psych ward for 6 weeks, signed in by my mother, because I was "causing trouble"... I think it really depends on the parents, the doctors, the hospital and how the kid presents...

[identity profile] confractions.livejournal.com 2006-03-28 08:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I hear what you are saying. I did time time at a psyche hospital from age 13-17 1/2. What were you doing that was "causing trouble?" A parent cannot just take a child to a shrink and say, "Put them away" If a shrink does that without any evidence that you may be at risk of harming yourself/someone else or your condition worsening, is bad ethics. If anything the law falls on the side of the child. Did he question your mother or what was going on that was distressing to you? When you were signed in your parents would have had to go to probate court.

[identity profile] chaostiny.livejournal.com 2006-03-28 08:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I was taken to the emergency room after running away... I told the police what was going on in my house and THEY sided with my mom. I did end up going to court and my mom signed over custody of me to the state... basically I was causing trouble by speaking out. Also, the laws have changed a lot... this was 16 years ago!

[identity profile] chaostiny.livejournal.com 2006-03-28 08:31 pm (UTC)(link)
OK... i dont know what happened to my original reply but I will try to reiterate what I said.... darn LJ's been eating my posts!
Basically I ran away from home so I could tell someone what was going on in my house. I ran TO someone I knew and they called my mom and she said to take me to the hospital. When I got there my mom fed them some story about MY behaviour and when I was given the chance to talk, she was in the room so it wasn't until a week later that I finally told someone why I ran. Eventually we did go to court and my mom signed me over to the state so I could live in a group home for older teens, one that was mainly for abused kids. So I was eventually believed but initially I was locked up cus I was the troublemaker.

[identity profile] confractions.livejournal.com 2006-03-28 08:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow that sucks ass. I'm sorry that happened to you. Unfortunately running away is seen as dangerous behaviour and grounds to get a child locked up, until, a court hearing or released to their parents. Yeah it sucks but as a juvie that's how it goes.

[identity profile] sethrenn.livejournal.com 2006-03-29 06:13 am (UTC)(link)
"In many states, a minor may be hospitalized at the initiative of a parent or guardian, without the consent of the minor and without judicial review." (http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3882/is_200401/ai_n9383805) The 1979 Parham v. J.R. (http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=442&invol=584) decision reversed a federal district court ruling that Georgia's commitment laws for adolescents deprived them of due process.

The laws do vary from state to state-- for instance, in Florida, in order for a minor to be admitted to an institution on voluntary status, he or she must consent to the admission which their guardian applied for-- and some states (such as California) have differing laws for admission to public versus private institutions.

In many states, however, risk of harming self/others is not a necessary condition for the institutionalization of a minor-- for instance, in New York, New Jersey, and North Carolina. In New York, the only criterion required is that the adult applying for the minor's admission must understand that the child is being admitted to a psychiatric facility.

[identity profile] confractions.livejournal.com 2006-03-29 12:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes it does vary from state to state, hence Federal laws and state laws.

[identity profile] ksol1460.livejournal.com 2006-03-29 06:14 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, yes, they can, and they do it all the time. Kids can be locked up on any pretext whatsoever, and thanks to the Supreme Court decision in Parham vs JR, they have no legal recourse whatsoever.

Of course, there has to be an excuse, and this is where the diagnoses come in; "reactive problem of childhood", "oppositional defiant disorder", etc., etc. The shrink knows what is really going on, and so do the parents, but the official word has to be that the kid is a risk to self or others or will deteriorate without treatment (mind control, physical and emotional abuse, drugs, and electroshock, among other things).

Children have been locked up for everything from wearing pentagrams or spraypainting graffiti to being gay or getting bad grades. It's for his own good, after all!

[identity profile] confractions.livejournal.com 2006-03-29 12:38 pm (UTC)(link)
That was my point, that there has to be a stated reason, or excuse in your terms.